Ep 113: Our Favorite Things - Forgiveness, Games, etc.
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SARAH: Hey, what's up, hello! Welcome to Sounds Fake But Okay, a podcast where an aro-ace girl, I'm Sarah, that's me.
KAYLA: And a demi-straight girl, that's me, Kayla.
SARAH: Talk about all things to do with love, relationships, sexuality, and pretty much anything else we just don't understand.
KAYLA: On today's episode, juice
BOTH: Sounds Fake, But Okay.
[Intro Music]
SARAH: Welcome back to the pod!
KAYLA: Oh no, um, um, um.
SARAH: I have one.
KAYLA: Okay.
SARAH: Queer lady, m’am…
KAYLA: Sarah, I cannot believe you just voluntarily did that.
SARAH: I thought of that a couple of days ago.
KAYLA: You have stooped so low. You hate the m’s so much.
SARAH: I know I do.
KAYLA: But you really don't, do you?
SARAH: I thought of it and I was like, that's good.
KAYLA: See, doesn't it feel good?
SARAH: Ah.
KAYLA: Speaking of things that feel good.
SARAH: What are we talking about this week?
KAYLA: We are doing an all-juice episode.
SARAH: So much juice. Here's the thing. So um, when you hear this episode it will be... fucking...
KAYLA: Who knows?
SARAH: December 22nd.
KAYLA: Hmm. Merry almost Christmas.
SARAH: Almost Christmas. We are recording it on December 9th.
KAYLA: Yes.
SARAH: For reasons. Um, those reasons being that I am driving my car to California, apartment hunting, and coming back for the holidays, but I can't record an episode while I'm doing that because I can't just bring my mic with me.
KAYLA: I mean, we could do the car cast that I've always wanted, but only one of us in the car, but whatever.
SARAH: My sister would be there too.
KAYLA: Oh my god, a guest. Perfect.
SARAH: Yeah. Um, but, yeah, so we have to record two tonight, um, and because of these upcoming shenanigans and this upcoming move, I'm very stressed and my mental health reflects that, so usually I have a lot of juice and Kayla suggested doing this and I was like, what a bad time to do that. But you know what? It's a good time. It makes me think about juices. It's forcing me to think about juices. Uh, so bear with me, kids.
KAYLA: I want to shout out the podcast Wonderful, which is a McElroy family product, but basically every episode of that podcast is this, where they each have like two things that they think are really cool and then they like talk about them in depth and like do research or whatever. So, if you're into this, we're copying it and you should go listen to them.
SARAH: Yeah. Uh, I will also say that I think Kayla prepared more than me on this one.
KAYLA: In a wild turn of events.
SARAH: Yeah. So, um, I am going to make you go first.
KAYLA: Okay, do we want, so we each, or, I don't know what we have, I don't know what you have, but we talked about doing one that was like ace-related and then one other one.
SARAH: Yes, so mine is kind of both and then if you make me do another one I'll come up with something else fun.
KAYLA: Okay. My…
SARAH: So, you go first.
KAYLA: So, my first ace one is that Yasmin Benoit, we did this last week, still I don't know if that's her last name.
SARAH: And by last week we mean an hour ago.
KAYLA: So, I still don't know, was on the cover of Attitude Magazine/like in it, that came out for us like a week ago for you, I don't know.
SARAH: Three weeks ago.
KAYLA: Sure. So, I think, hello?
SARAH: Yep.
KAYLA: Okay, couldn't hear, got scared again. I think…
SARAH: I just stopped saying.
KAYLA: Sure. I think this is the first time an ace person, at least an openly ace person, she's also aro, was on the cover of like a queer magazine, which is what Attitude Magazine is, which is just very exciting to have that representation and also that acceptance from the queer community at large.
SARAH: Yas.
KAYLA: She was featured with other activists, which is really cool because she's an activist.
SARAH: Yes, she is.
KAYLA: So, I just wanted to talk about a few things about her. I don't know like a ton about her besides like stuff that she talks about often and what I read in the small blurb because it costs money to get the magazine and I would recommend that you buy it but I didn't because I looked at it today. Anyway.
SARAH: And do either of us have money? Great question.
KAYLA: No, we don't. Exciting things is she's black, which is cool because I think asexuality often is like looks very white on the outside and also like people of color often just like even more sexualized than like your average woman.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: Just like as the baseline. So that's very cool. Also, she's a lingerie model, which is like not what you would expect from an ace person, I suppose. But it's really cool because it shows that like you know ace people can be whatever and look like whatever. She started the hashtag this is what asexual looks like, which is really cool. We've talked about that several times and how much we appreciated it and it is very cool. And she just… in her blurb, the blurb that she posted at least from the Attitude Magazine, she was talking about how she was a model because she wanted like more diverse bodies in the modeling space. And then she like had a platform and would mention asexuality kind of casually and then started mentioning it more and then kind of snowballed into her being an activist. And now she's like on the board of people on AVEN and worked with AVEN to make the asexual bar during Pride in the UK, which is cool.
SARAH: We've never like talked to her?
KAYLA: No, but… well I DM'd her once.
SARAH: Oh, that's fun.
KAYLA: And she was like, there was something about if she wanted to be on the pod. So, I feel like we could get her on logistics with the time difference.
SARAH: I'd like to be friends with her.
KAYLA: I would also like to be friends with her and have her agent. Yeah, so I just think it's really cool. I think one interesting thing that she mentioned in the Attitude Magazine was that the asexual community has kind of been waiting for more visibility to come. And she was like, my philosophy was kind of like, well, I'll go out and actively try to get the attention.
SARAH: Go get it, yeah.
KAYLA: Which I don't think that's feasible for everyone, obviously. Not everyone is obviously able to actively go out and do that.
SARAH: And become a full-time activist.
KAYLA: Right, or just out themselves at all. It's not possible for everyone to do anything but sit and wait. But I think it is cool that she saw that she had the opportunity and was like, well, I'm going to do this then if other people won't or can't. So, I think that's really cool.
SARAH: And I think anyone who listens to this podcast, if you are kind of more embedded in A-spec communities, you probably already know who she is.
KAYLA: I should imagine so, yeah.
SARAH: Yeah. But if you're not, or even if you are, but you just want to know, she's great. You should learn about her and follow her and tell her to be on this podcast.
KAYLA: Well, we could definitely tell her ourselves.
SARAH: We could.
KAYLA: But you could also tell her.
SARAH: Yeah, I think she's a very good ambassador for the community.
KAYLA: Yes, it's very cool.
SARAH: That is cool. Is that your first one?
KAYLA: That's my first one.
SARAH: Okay, so my thing, as we were talking about what to do in this episode, I was like, my mental health has not been great recently. So, let's think back on 2019 and what my juice has been in 2019. The podcast, the Good Place, the podcast, at the end of every episode, they do what they say, like, what's good. And so, I was thinking of it kind of in that sense because I was like, okay, what is good? Like not just like things I like, things that are juicy, but like, what is good? And so, I was thinking back on 2019, since the end of the year, what the fuck? And here's what I think, because I was like, okay, talking openly about mental health is a good thing. And I think I have made a lot of progress in my life recently in terms of my mental health. But then I was like, you know what, here's a more specific thing. Are you ready? This is about to get earnest.
KAYLA: Oh, no.
SARAH: I know. It's horrible, right?
KAYLA: Yes.
SARAH: Okay. I think forgiving oneself is good.
KAYLA: Mm-hmm
SARAH: Personally, I'm not much of a grudge holder myself, with a few rare exceptions. I haven't been wronged in my life all that much. But the exceptions that I do have, where I do hold grudges, are usually when someone I care about has been wronged and I'm mad on their behalf.
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KAYLA: Fair
SARAH: I'm not a super grudgy person on a personal level. But I… and I think this is true of a lot of people, definitely get very frustrated with myself a lot, and then I kind of am just mad at myself and that kind of festers. And listen, that doesn't help anything. Like me being mad at myself because I slept too much, because my mental health is not good right now, and I am the kind of person who just sleeps a lot when I'm depressed. Like that, being mad at myself for that is not going to help me solve any problems. And so, I think, not just in regards to myself, but in regards to everyone else out there, I think forgiving yourself is a good thing. Whether it's like, I slept too much and I'm mad at myself, or like I punched my friend in the face and I regret it. There's a wide range, you know? But… because I was thinking about, okay, so like I, like because I'm not much of a grudge holder, like I… and when I am it's usually on someone else's behalf, I was like, okay, so why do I hold the people I care about to a different standard than I hold myself? Like why?
KAYLA: Like me
SARAH: Yeah. Like, like why am I holding grudges essentially against myself when I don't do it for… to other people?
KAYLA: Do you hold any grunches on my behalf? I said grunches, I didn't mean to.
SARAH: I can't think of any. Should I be holding grudges on your behalf? Is there something specific I need to know about?
KAYLA: No, I mean I was thinking of a couple that like you could, but like probably not because they weren't to like a very high degree.
SARAH: There's like one major one.
KAYLA: For me?
SARAH: Not for you, in general.
KAYLA: Oh, dang it.
SARAH: I… so a couple of months ago I guess, I know I talked about the Golden Ratio and I mentioned when the dog Riley died. And I don't remember if I mentioned this on the podcast or not, but I was listening to their podcast and Jen who is the mother of the dogs, she was very upset about how everything went down because essentially, they put Riley down, but she thinks she waited too long and that she should have done it the day before. But… like she said that she was just being selfish and she wanted to keep him for longer, but he was suffering and so she felt really guilty about that. And she was like, I don't think I'll ever be able to forgive myself for doing that. And I was listening to that and I was like, okay, here's the thing. I believe that you say you're never going to forgive yourself for that because she was genuinely very upset about it and she loved Riley very much. But then I was like, you know what? I forgive you for that because you were just doing your best. Like you were doing the best you could and I don't really think there's anything to forgive, but I do forgive you, ma'am. And so, I messaged her on Twitter and I told her that. And she did answer me because she answers most of the time. And I don't know if it made her feel any better or not, but I'm glad I did.
KAYLA: It's still very nice though.
SARAH: Yeah, I'm glad I did it because it was important to me that she knows that even if she doesn't forgive herself, I do. And even if I'm some random person who she has interacted with like three times on the internet, it's still like, I forgive you for this situation. And so, as I was thinking about forgiving oneself, I thought of that and I was like, I think she should forgive herself for that. And I don't know if she will, but if I think she should forgive herself for that, then why am I like not forgiving myself for like, this one time I opened the door to a stranger when I was eight years old?
KAYLA: Sarah, no.
SARAH: It haunts me.
KAYLA: I know it does.
SARAH: So, I think forgiving yourself is good.
KAYLA: I think that's very good. Something my therapist tells me all the time is giving myself grace because I always get very afraid of fucking up at work even though I'm still quite new and she's like, lady, ma'am, chill out.
SARAH: Woman.
KAYLA: Woman. Señorita.
SARAH: I was about to say señorita, but that was from last week's episode.
KAYLA: Well, they'll have heard it.
SARAH: Okay.
KAYLA: They'll know. It's a joke now. Get on board.
SARAH: Señorita.
KAYLA: Señorita. Stop it.
SARAH: Yeah. And I think it does relate to the aspec community and queerness in general because a lot of times people's thoughts about their sexuality at the beginning can be very negative and they're like, why am I like this? Like I wish I wasn't blah, blah, blah, blah. And they may be willing to forgive someone else whose thoughts and feelings on queerness have evolved, but like they still just kind of hold it against themselves. And it's like, it's okay. And when I say it's okay, I don't mean like, it's fine that that happened. But I mean like, you have grown. You are acting in a different way now. And it's okay to let that go and just forgive yourself and be like, this is the path I'm on now. Being ace is cool. Exclamation point.
KAYLA: Yes.
SARAH: Yes. So, I think that's good.
KAYLA: I agree.
SARAH: It's juicey. And sometimes I'm bad at it. And I think a lot of people are bad at it.
KAYLA: But that's okay and you should forgive yourself for being bad at it too.
SARAH: You should. Like for example, the worse my mental health is, the more I do things that I get mad at myself about. And this morning I woke up super late and then stayed in my bed a really long time and then I went to the gym but I was like, I literally, I very much half-assed it. Like I quarter-assed it at the gym. But I was like, you know what? It's okay. I forgive myself. You went. At least you went.
KAYLA: That's true. You went and that's much more than I can say for myself.
SARAH: You left the house and yes.
KAYLA: Yes.
SARAH: I didn't do some of the things I might to-do-list. It's okay. The world is still turning.
KAYLA: I didn't do some of the things on my to-do-list this weekend and that's fine.
SARAH: Sun still comes up in the morning. Except in Michigan where it's overcast all the time.
KAYLA: Still good.
SARAH: Anyway, okay. What's your other juice?
KAYLA: My other juice, so this is just a fun one. I was trying to think about, I was like, what have I been enjoying lately? What have I been doing with my time? And I was like, you know what I've been doing is playing a lot of The Sims.
SARAH: Oh my god. We're playing The Sims when we see each other, right?
KAYLA: Yes, so another thing, last week we talked about Sarah looking through Tinder for our Patreon. Another thing I want to do while me and Sarah are together are play a bunch of games like the rest of the KFC… My cat is drinking out of my water. That's… you have your own. Ma'am.
SARAH: Billie!
KAYLA: She likes to stick her paw down into my cup and then bring it up and lick it off of her hand.
SARAH: Oh my God
KAYLA: As if she couldn't just go to her bowl and get it direct from the source.
SARAH: Chaotic neutral.
KAYLA: She gets famous once and then just, what a diva! What was I saying? Oh.
SARAH: That one might even be chaotic evil.
KAYLA: She's not chaotic evil. She's chaotic good, I think.
SARAH: I think that particular action is chaotic neutral, though.
KAYLA: Yeah, but you know. Um, Sarah, if you come to my house over break, you'll meet my cat.
SARAH: I'm coming, Kayla
KAYLA: Okay. Anyway, one of the things we're going to do when Sarah comes to my house, other than petting my cat and having her...
SARAH: And seeing Deaf Baby
KAYLA: And seeing Deaf Baby, my dog, is not only looking through Tinder, but I want to play a bunch of games. So, we're going to finish the KFC dating sim, I want to play Dream Daddy, and I want to play Sims. And all of these in an asexual way.
SARAH: Yep
KAYLA: And then hopefully we'll all record many hours, and then every so often we'll put them on Patreon as a patron exclusive. Because we are content queens now.
SARAH: Sure.
KAYLA: And I guess if anyone else has any other games that would be good for this endeavor, let me know.
SARAH: Let us know, like, soon, because by the time this pod comes out, it will be happening very soon.
KAYLA: Yes. Uh, yes.
SARAH: So. Uh, yeah. Anyway, what?
KAYLA: Oh yeah, so Sims. I forgot what we were talking about. So, Sims. I've been playing a lot of Sims without any expansion packs because I'm poor. I just have the base game, but maybe someone will get me it for Christmas even though I didn't ask, so I don't know who would. Anyway. It's very fun. So, I wanted to talk about some things that I thought were fun about it. These are, one, fun thing. Well, okay. So, it does make you, when you're making your Sim, choose a gender, that sucks.
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SARAH: Mm-hmm
KAYLA: However, a recent-ish update was that when you pick your gender, you can also pick whether your Sim can get another Sim pregnant or not. Which is basically how you choose to have a trans character. So that's very exciting. I do think.
SARAH: Yes.
KAYLA: Yes.
SARAH: Yes.
KAYLA: Yes.
SARAH: Yes
KAYLA: Yes. Stop. I think another fun thing is I think a lot of fandoms use Sims in fun ways. People will make characters from TV shows or recreate. I mean, I know we're not a huge fan of Friends here in this house, but people make the Friends apartment or make the Harry Potter castle and then make the characters and then you put them up on the where… What if people made Sims about…
SARAH: Oh my god. Make mine the lightest skin color you can make.
KAYLA: If you play the Sims, you should please make us and then put us in the gallery with the hashtag soundsfakepod. What if people do it?
SARAH: Oh my god.
KAYLA: Because you can make Sims or houses and then put them in the gallery and then other people can download them.
SARAH: That's true. Just some information. My eyes are blue.
KAYLA: There's pictures of us on the internet, Sarah. Oh, but you can't make your eye do the weird thing.
SARAH: Yeah, no. Can't.
KAYLA: Sad. Anyway, so that's cool. It's like an outlet for fandoms of like you can make your favorite characters and then you can play them and it's like you're playing a fanfic.
SARAH: It is cool
KAYLA: That's kind of fun. I think. There's also a very fun community. I'm a big fan of watching people play Sims online. I think it's just very like soothing. I like people... I like watching people play video games in general because I just find it very entertaining. But Sims is extra fun. You can watch people like make a house. What could be more fun than that?
SARAH: Yeah, I think… so, my favorite part of Sims is creating the characters.
KAYLA: That is very fun.
SARAH: Because that is my cup of tea. Like we used to play Sims with our neighbor across the street. And she and my sister would get mad at me because I would take too long to design my characters.
KAYLA: How long does it take you to name them?
SARAH: So long.
KAYLA: Yeah
SARAH: That's like my thing, is naming things and like coming up with characters. That's my shtick. And so… that's my favorite part. And I think sometimes the actual playing of the Sims can stress me out a little bit.
KAYLA: It used to stress me out a lot. And I think I've gotten better at it, which is exciting.
SARAH: Well, that is the good thing about just like watching other people play it is you don't have to worry about it. Like if they set their kitchen on fire, that's their problem.
KAYLA: I set my kitchen on fire the other day. Oh, my God.
SARAH: I know
KAYLA: I thought all my Sims were going to die. And then my elder Sim died. But then we pleaded with the Grim Reaper and she came back to life. She's super going to die soon though.
SARAH: Oh, man. I love how you can plead with the Grim Reaper.
KAYLA: You can. You can also flirt with him.
SARAH: I know you can.
KAYLA: It's very wild. You can flirt with Santa. It's a lot. So, I think that's, yeah, the community is fun. There's a lot of fun challenges. Kelsey on BuzzFeed has been doing the 100 Baby Challenge for almost a year. And those are some of my favorite videos on YouTube. They come out every Saturday and it's very exciting. And it's just, because that is a very stressful thing. But watching someone else do it is just very fun. So, I like the community. I think that's very fun. Also, I think it allows you to express yourself because these are humanoid things. And you could make yourself and then do whatever you want. You can have whatever job you want. You can have a relationship with whatever you want. You could not have a relationship. I feel like I've seen memes of people being like me when I was 14 watching two girl sims, woohoo. But you didn't realize you were gay yet and you were like, interesting. So, I just think that's cool. That you can kind of make them...
SARAH: You can have spiky hair.
KAYLA: Yeah, you can have all the hair.
SARAH: Without having to commit.
KAYLA: You can also, there's a wizarding world pack now where you can become a wizard. You can become a vampire. I think there's tree people. You can go to space.
SARAH: Oh my God
KAYLA: There's a university one now which seems a little too real.
SARAH: You can go to space?
KAYLA: Yeah, you can build... one of the careers is astronaut. But you can also just have... We can explore the A-space thing, Sarah, when we play. Don't worry.
SARAH: Space, oh my god.
KAYLA: Yes. It's just a good way to express yourself. You know?
SARAH: That's fun. I haven't played sims in a long time. I recently found our Sims 2 DVD in my house.
KAYLA: Oh boy.
SARAH: Then I opened it up and I realized the DVD was not in there.
KAYLA: You know what game I miss?
SARAH: Devastating. What?
KAYLA: Diner Dash.
SARAH: I don't think I know that.
KAYLA: Oh, you have this little waitress and all of these people come into the restaurant and you have to take their order and bring their food, but if you wait too long they get angry and they leave. And then every time you use your money to upgrade your restaurant so it ends up looking very nice. And you move on to another shitty restaurant and you make that all nice. And you have this restaurant empire.
SARAH: So, you are just like a restaurant owner who is also an waitress?
KAYLA: Yeah, but it's fun. And there's different characters and some of them are like, if this lady sits next to the crying baby she gets extra mad so you have to figure out how to seat people in the right places.
SARAH: Wow.
KAYLA: And like Jenga it all right. It's a very good game. I miss it.
SARAH: Okay.
KAYLA: Okay.
SARAH: You know what was a good game? Temple Run was a good game.
KAYLA: Temple Run is a good game. Sub… Sub… Oh, hello? Subway Surfer. Also, a good game.
SARAH: I don't know that one.
KAYLA: It's like Temple Run. Let's talk about good games.
SARAH: Fruit Ninja.
KAYLA: Good. I like when you go to arcades and they have the giant Fruit Ninja on the big…
SARAH: Oh, I've never done that.
KAYLA: Well, some arcades have it like on the big touch screen you can play giant Fruit Ninja.
SARAH: I recently played Pool.
KAYLA: Pool is good.
SARAH: And was bad at it.
KAYLA: Yes, same.
SARAH: Uh, well, because the only other time I had played was with you freshman year.
KAYLA: Oh my god. I forgot we even did that.
SARAH: Yeah, and…
KAYLA: It took so long.
SARAH: Yeah, well, but then at the end me and my friend were just like using our hands to just like fling…
KAYLA: Oh, good.
SARAH: Two balls across the table and like try and get them, try to knock them into each other and get them into the holes. And that was honestly funner.
KAYLA: That's good. I like the iMessage games.
SARAH: Mm. Battleships.
KAYLA: Because, um, what?
SARAH: I like Battleships except I don't like how on iMessage you can't have Battleships kitty corner to each other.
KAYLA: I also, because that's such a good strategy.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: But that is, as someone in a long-distance relationship, I play a lot of iMessage pool as a way of communication.
SARAH: Nice.
KAYLA: What games do I have on my phone?
SARAH: Why don't we play more iMessage games?
KAYLA: I don't know. I'm going to play you right now.
SARAH: I was literally doing that.
KAYLA: What should we play?
SARAH: I don't know.
KAYLA: What do you want to play? I'm very good at pool now so be careful. I play a lot of pool.
SARAH: I'm not good at pool.
KAYLA: Let's play? I'm really bad at mini golf even though I play a lot of mini golf. Let's play…
SARAH: Let's play Pong.
KAYLA: Let's play Pong.
SARAH: Okay
KAYLA: I won three consecutive games of Pong over the weekend.
SARAH: Oh wow.
KAYLA: No, we can't both send it.
SARAH: We both just requested each other. Okay, we can't do this during the pod anyway.
KAYLA: Fine. Wait, I was looking at the games on my phone to find a good game.
SARAH: I don't have games on my phone because I get obsessed with them and then I dedicate my whole life to them. So, I have not…
KAYLA: Is good, did you?
SARAH: I have not had games on my phone since I had an iPod touch.
KAYLA: That's sad. Did you in school, in typing class, we had like sometimes free time and there was computer games and there was this one where you had like a bunch of fish in an aquarium and you like had to feed them before they died and then they would get bigger and every so often…
SARAH: That sounds familiar.
KAYLA: The big monster would come and you'd have to fight it so it didn't kill your fish.
SARAH: That sounds familiar.
KAYLA: And then after the fish pooped money and they used the money to get like fancy other fish that would give you other things.
SARAH: That sounds familiar.
KAYLA: It's a very good game.
SARAH: Except for the pooping money thing.
KAYLA: No, that's like the main thing is that they give you money.
SARAH: I don't remember that.
KAYLA: What else do I have?
SARAH: Do you know what game I never got to play because I… in elementary school we did this thing called Sack which is just like school age care it’s like Latch Key where you just stay after school because your parents aren’t home. And they had one computer because…
KAYLA: Good
SARAH: It was the early 2000s and they had a… what’s that game where you cross, you go west…
KAYLA: Oh, we’re going to try
SARAH: Dive Dysentery
KAYLA: I never played that either
SARAH: I never played it because I was not aggressive enough to be like I want the computer…
KAYLA: Typical
SARAH: Right. Because like there was only one computer and everyone wanted to play, and it was usually like the 4th and 5th graders who got it
KAYLA: Sad
SARAH: And my sister played it sometimes but I was never aggressive enough to claim the computer
KAYLA: I had one and I forgot. As a kid I used to play on Word paint a lot or like…
SARAH: Paint
KAYLA: Microsoft Paint a lot
SARAH: You know what Benjamin Ybarra would juice, tabletop games.
KAYLA: That's true. Tabletop games are good.
SARAH: You're welcome, Benjamin.
KAYLA: Good job, Benjamin.
SARAH: I like Uno, but with my family's rules.
KAYLA: I like Uno, but with my friends' rules where when one person gets down to Uno, everyone teams up against them and tries to see what card they have.
SARAH: Fun.
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KAYLA: And then we all work together.
SARAH: We play it where there are points, but we do it wrong. So, the way you're supposed to do points is all of the cards are worth a certain amount of points, and then at the end of the game, everyone counts up their points. And then the way it's supposed to work is the person who won gets all of their points and the goal is to get as many points as possible. My family does it where your goal is to have as few points as possible by the end of however many games you play. So, like…
KAYLA: That’s definitely how you're supposed to play it, Sarah.
SARAH: It's wrong. I thought that for most of my life also.
KAYLA: But you're supposed to have less points.
SARAH: No, no, no, no, I know. But I'm just saying like, if you play multiple games, like, technically, the way you're supposed to have someone like win the group of games is to have a lot of points. But the way I do it, and I know a lot of other people do this too, because I've heard of other people doing this, is to have as few points as possible. So then basically, before you go out, if you're going to win, you try and dump as many points on people as possible. And you're like, you save your draw fours to the very end.
KAYLA: Interesting
SARAH: And then you make them draw four right before you win.
KAYLA: That's very sad.
SARAH: I also like spoons.
KAYLA: I like it. Spoons is good.
SARAH: Spoons is good.
KAYLA: I think I played a lot of the game of war as a child.
SARAH: War is good. Every time I play euchre, I have to be retaught.
KAYLA: Euchre is good. Poker is not good because when I was taught by my family, they were mean to me because my family is very aggressive with cards and I got sad so I stopped playing.
SARAH: Uh oh. Yeah, I'm kind of a bad Michigander. I haven't played probably more than two or three games of euchre in my life.
KAYLA: I've played a lot of Euchre. Oh, I have remembered. Mavis Beacon is what I, it's not technically a game, but it's how I learned to type.
SARAH: We used type to learn.
KAYLA: Oh, gross.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: But I recently heard someone else on a podcast talking about Mavis Beacon and I got very excited because every time I mentioned Mavis Beacon, no one knows what I'm talking about.
SARAH: I know what it is.
KAYLA: But it was basically a bunch of games to help you learn how to type and I beat it because my words per minute were so high…
SARAH: Kayla is a fast typer.
KAYLA: My teacher reset my typing speed to like a thousand so I would not break it again because she was like, I don't want to deal with you anymore. But I beat Mavis Beacon, that bitch.
SARAH: Yep.
KAYLA: I'm a good typer.
SARAH: We… they… did you have the things where they would put the keyboard cover over the key so it didn't show up the numbers?
KAYLA: Like the orange squishy thing, it made me so slow.
SARAH: Ours was black, but yes.
KAYLA: Ours was orange and it made squeaky sounds.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: So, it was like big and rubber.
SARAH: I want to look at the fucking keys. Let me look at the keys. Who cares?
KAYLA: I was more annoyed by how clunky it made the situation.
SARAH: Yeah, it also made it harder to like press buttons.
KAYLA: I didn't like it.
SARAH: Back in the day.
KAYLA: You know what's wild? They probably don't need typing classes anymore. Or like in 20 years, you won't need them.
SARAH: Probably not. I mean, I think it's still important for people to learn how to type like with all of your fingers.
KAYLA: Yeah, people, oh my god, people that use like two fingers, I can't. Yeah, so I was watching Marvelous Mrs. Maisel and they all, like a lot of them type like kind of like Hunt & Pack because it was just like not…
KAYLA: I can’t
SARAH: Generally taught yet how to like type not that way. And I was like, imagine being the actor where it's like, you know how to type, but you have to like pretend to not be able to.
KAYLA: I would die.
SARAH: Is that your second juice, just games?
KAYLA: I guess so. I mean, you're the one that needs to come up with another one.
SARAH: I told Kayla that if I was pressed to come up with another one, I would just say Dan Levy again.
KAYLA: That's a cop out.
SARAH: I'm trying. Okay. Dan Levy is so good though.
KAYLA: That's a cop out.
SARAH: Oh, I thought of one earlier and then I forgot because I didn't write it down.
KAYLA: Good.
SARAH: You know what I think is good?
KAYLA: Mm-hmm.
SARAH: As much as I'm very scared to move out to Los Angeles, I think having friends who live there is good because we're just going to help each other make our way in the industry. I was talking to a friend today and we were like, yeah, the rules are no assholes, no egos, and no new friends.
KAYLA: Oh my gosh.
SARAH: Which obviously is a joke.
KAYLA: That does not seem very reliable.
SARAH: But I'm just very grateful that from my program at my school and also from interning in LA in the past, I know people who are nice people and they're not assholes.
KAYLA: Not yet
SARAH: And a lot of them are queer, which is nice.
KAYLA: It is nice. Yeah, as someone who moved far away without anyone, yeah.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: Seems nice.
SARAH: Yeah. Well, if you moved to Los Angeles...
KAYLA: I'm not... I told you explicitly once that I would have gone wherever with you except for Los Angeles.
SARAH: If I got to do it, you got to do it.
KAYLA: That's not true, actually.
SARAH: The podcasting hub of America.
KAYLA: That's true.
SARAH: That wasn't a very long juice and it was...
KAYLA: No, it wasn't.
SARAH: And not something I could really dive into.
KAYLA: It was very short.
SARAH: I just... I'm doing my best. juice... I think drinking water is good.
KAYLA: Drinking water is good and I'm very bad at it.
SARAH: I went 19 years of my life not drinking water unless I was exercising. And then I went to Germany and when I was with my host family, they never had milk that was appropriate for drinking.
KAYLA: Oh my god, Sarah.
SARAH: And I didn't want to drink too much Coke, so I started drinking water. And now, I drink water.
KAYLA: That's like the one perk I think of having a desk job, is that I always just have a… I sit in like one to two places a day, and I always have a cup of water. And I do put flavoring in it because I'm a weenie.
SARAH: Weenie.
KAYLA: But it's there, and so then I just have to… it's right there. And when I get bored, I just drink it.
SARAH: Got to drink it.
KAYLA: Yeah
SARAH: I just… I mean, me learning to drink water is maybe the most important thing I got out of my study abroad experience.
KAYLA: That cannot be true. It simply cannot.
SARAH: Water is good, though. You know what is not good?
KAYLA: No.
SARAH: Places that have contaminated water, still, it's 2019. Fuck that shit.
KAYLA: That's very bad.
SARAH: Give Flint and Newark and all these other places with black and brown communities that don't have good water fucking figure it out, motherfuckers.
KAYLA: I was talking to someone recently who is not from Michigan here in Connecticut and they were like, does Flint have water yet? And I was like, um, no.
SARAH: No
KAYLA: Actually. No
SARAH: And there is no.
KAYLA: They don't.
SARAH: Little Miss Flint is like almost a fucking teenager these days.
KAYLA: Yeah, she's old.
SARAH: And they still don't have water.
KAYLA: He's not little anymore.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: It's bad.
SARAH: So, I fucking hate that shit.
KAYLA: There's supposed to be juices Sarah
SARAH: I know, I'm sorry.
KAYLA: What happened? What happened? Turn it back around.
SARAH: My brain happened. There's this one candle that I really like.
KAYLA: That's good. I also have a candle that I like.
SARAH: I can't tell you exactly what it is because I already packed it.
KAYLA: Okay.
SARAH: But it's three flavors and it's nice. It's something cinnamon-y, it's something like spiced rum or something. I'm going to try and Google it. Three-layer candle. Three-layer candle. Ahhhhhh…
KAYLA: This is unpleasant to my ears.
SARAH: It's going to take too long to find it on the internet.
KAYLA: I'm so tired.
SARAH: Listen, y'all. This is not our best content, but we're doing our best.
KAYLA: I'm so tired.
SARAH: And I forgive myself.
KAYLA: And I also forgive myself.
SARAH: And I forgive you.
KAYLA: I also forgive you, Sarah.
SARAH: What a moment.
KAYLA: I also forgive the audience for hating us. I forgive you. That's okay.
SARAH: That's valid.
KAYLA: That's okay. Unless you're being rude about it, then fuck off.
SARAH: Yeah, then fuck you. Anyway…
KAYLA: Good
SARAH: That's that. I do want to say Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanzaa, Merry Christmas.
KAYLA: You know what's my juice, Sarah?
SARAH: What?
KAYLA: The people who listen to this podcast.
SARAH: Aww, that's so earnest.
KAYLA: But it's true.
SARAH: I also find that to be juicy. Um, yeah.
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KAYLA: Good feeling, Sarah.
SARAH: Cool. No, I think things are cool and fun and that I've run out of things to say.
KAYLA: Mm-hmm.
SARAH: What is our poll?
KAYLA: What are your juices?
SARAH: Yeah, what are your juicees of 2019? Give me those full year. Heck, give us a full decade of juices.
KAYLA: What are your… like a what's the Spotify thing?
SARAH: Year in a view.
KAYLA: Your juices of the decade.
SARAH: I was thinking the other day I was like I… because I had seen a couple of people do this where they like put their favorite album from every year of the decade.
KAYLA: As if I would know that answer.
SARAH: And I have one for 2017 and that's it.
KAYLA: Oh my god.
SARAH: It's the Bleachers album from 2017. By the way.
KAYLA: You know, I have a favorite album from whatever our freshman year was.
SARAH: Pentatonix?
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Yeah, it's good.
KAYLA: That's it though.
SARAH: It's a good album.
KAYLA: That's all.
SARAH: That's it.
KAYLA: Too much good music came out this year. I don't know.
SARAH: A lot of good music. This is normally where we do beef and juice, but...
KAYLA: Can't.
SARAH: Can't. Whole episode is beef and juice.
KAYLA: One beef, all juice. I was supposed to… this week Tweet out that the shrimp was the manager.
SARAH: The shrimp was the manager. You can still do it. It's Monday.
KAYLA: I will right now. Take us out, Sarah.
SARAH: Okay. @SoundsFakePod everywhere. Tell us your things.
KAYLA: My juice is that the shrimp was the manager.
SARAH: Yeah, the shrimp was the manager.
KAYLA: At work today, I said the whole thing because I… yes, do have the whole thing memorized apparently.
SARAH: I believe you. I believe you. We also have a patreon, patreon.com/soundsfakepod, my juices are patrons.
KAYLA: Yes
SARAH: Our $2 patrons are Keith McBlaine, Roxanne, AliceisinSpace, Anonymous, Mariah Walter, Jonathan, Christopher T Verdieri, Patrick Jackson, Andrew Yang, Ninny, Courtney Jones, Eric B, Amanda Juntenon, Maddie, Purple Haze. Our $5 patrons are Jennifer Smart, Asthritha Vinnakota, Austin Le, Drew Finney, Peri Fiero, Dee, Megan Rowell, Quinn Pollock, Emily Collins, Tim, Ryan Lutcieti, Bookmarvel, Changelink MX, Derek and Karissa, and Simona. Our $10 patrons are Kevin and Tessa @DirtyUncleKevin and @Tessa_M_K, Arcness who would like to promote the Trevor Project, Benjamin Ybarra, who as I mentioned would like to promote tabletop games. Anonymous would like to promote Halloween. Sarah McCoy who would like to promote podcasts from a Planet Weird. My aunt Jeannie would like to promote Christopher's Haven. Our $15 patrons are Nathaniel White, Nathanieljwhitedesigns.com, Julie, my mom Julie, that's my mom, who would like to promote free mom hugs. Sarah Jones who is @Eternallolli Everywhere. And Dragonfly who would like to promote driving across the country with your sister.
KAYLA: That's a good one.
SARAH: That's what I'm doing. Thank you for listening. Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah. Happy Kwanzaa. Happy Wonder Solstice. Happy Boxing Day. Happy, what's the thing I looked up two weeks ago?
KAYLA: I don't know.
SARAH: Festivus. Thank you for listening. Oh, I already said that part. Tune in next Sunday for more of us in your ears.
KAYLA: Until then, take good care of your Christmas and Hanukkah and everything cows.
SARAH: Okay.
KAYLA: Okay
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